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Postby European » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:28 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to find out what would be a good host plant for my (container grown) Santalum acuminatum plants. Do you have any recommendations ?

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:44 am

European wrote:Hi,

I'm trying to find out what would be a good host plant for my (container grown) Santalum acuminatum plants. Do you have any recommendations ?

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I have found out that commercial growers of these use Myoporum parvifolium as a host plant, but clearly this is not going to be appropriate for pots.

In the wild various Acacia are common hosts for them. But again, you will struggle to grow both a Santalum and an Acacia in the same pot I suspect.

I really think you need to re-consider growing these in pots and rather find a suitable place in the garden for them.
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby European » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:43 am

Thanks for informations !

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:19 pm

I've successfully grown them in pots with Mimulus prostratus .

Commercial trials were carried out by he CSIRO using kikuyu.


Let me add that this is not a plant suitable to container growing.
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:21 pm

boylesg wrote:
I have found out that commercial growers of these use Myoporum parvifolium as a host plant, but clearly this is not going to be appropriate for pots.




Can I have a reference for these claims?
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:46 pm

roughbarked wrote:
boylesg wrote:
I have found out that commercial growers of these use Myoporum parvifolium as a host plant, but clearly this is not going to be appropriate for pots.




Can I have a reference for these claims?



Go to Kuranga Native Nursery and all their Santalums have a small Myoporum parvifolium in the tube with them.

Also talk to this guy: http://www.nectarbrook.com/quandong/tree.html

He was a commercial grower of them but has retired. I once purchased some quandong seeds from him.

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:18 pm

boylesg wrote:
roughbarked wrote:
boylesg wrote:
I have found out that commercial growers of these use Myoporum parvifolium as a host plant, but clearly this is not going to be appropriate for pots.




Can I have a reference for these claims?



Go to Kuranga Native Nursery and all their Santalums have a small Myoporum parvifolium in the tube with them.

Also talk to this guy: http://www.nectarbrook.com/quandong/tree.html

He was a commercial grower of them but has retired. I once purchased some quandong seeds from him.



So then, it is appropriate for pots.

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:41 pm

roughbarked wrote:
So then, it is appropriate for pots.




The fact that they are propagated in tubes with a small Myoporum parvifolium as a host does not make them suitable for long term cultivation in pots!

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:28 am

boylesg wrote:
roughbarked wrote:
So then, it is appropriate for pots.


The fact that they are propagated in tubes with a small Myoporum parvifolium as a host does not make them suitable for long term cultivation in pots!


The Myoporum or the Santalum?

We can agree on one thing. That Santalum arent suited to pots. Can also state that it is unnecessary to have a host plant in the tube.

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:04 am

roughbarked wrote:
boylesg wrote:
roughbarked wrote:
So then, it is appropriate for pots.


The fact that they are propagated in tubes with a small Myoporum parvifolium as a host does not make them suitable for long term cultivation in pots!


The Myoporum or the Santalum?

We can agree on one thing. That Santalum arent suited to pots. Can also state that it is unnecessary to have a host plant in the tube.


And you certainly cannot cultivate Myoporum parvifolium, and aggressive sprawling ground cover, in a pot.

Don't know about the latter however. I am at the bottom of the learning curve as far as propagating Santalum goes. But I would assume that the suppliers of Kuranga know a thing or two about propagating them and that they put the Myoporum in the tube with the Santalum for a very good reason.

Probably the Santalums would grow far to slowly without the small Myoporums.

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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:20 am

boylesg wrote:And you certainly cannot cultivate Myoporum parvifolium, and aggressive sprawling ground cover, in a pot.

Don't know about the latter however. I am at the bottom of the learning curve as far as propagating Santalum goes. But I would assume that the suppliers of Kuranga know a thing or two about propagating them and that they put the Myoporum in the tube with the Santalum for a very good reason.

Probably the Santalums would grow far to slowly without the small Myoporums.


Well, I have managed to cultivate Myporum parvifolium in an ice cream container of water.

Please take a little time to consider your comment before you go off half cocked.
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:38 am

roughbarked wrote:
boylesg wrote:And you certainly cannot cultivate Myoporum parvifolium, and aggressive sprawling ground cover, in a pot.

Don't know about the latter however. I am at the bottom of the learning curve as far as propagating Santalum goes. But I would assume that the suppliers of Kuranga know a thing or two about propagating them and that they put the Myoporum in the tube with the Santalum for a very good reason.

Probably the Santalums would grow far to slowly without the small Myoporums.


Well, I have managed to cultivate Myporum parvifolium in an ice cream container of water.

Please take a little time to consider your comment before you go off half cocked.


It is not a long term or low maintenance proposition Roughbarked.

It is hard enough cultivating anything in pots over a long period of time - they have a tendancy to desicate quickly and kill the plants, particularly during our recent long lasting drought.

Particularly aggressive species like Myoporum parvifolium........apart from the fact it is a sprawling shrub and will continually spread well outside the container and perhaps cause problems.
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:10 pm

boylesg wrote:
It is not a long term or low maintenance proposition Roughbarked.

It is hard enough cultivating anything in pots over a long period of time - they have a tendancy to desicate quickly and kill the plants, particularly during our recent long lasting drought.

Particularly aggressive species like Myoporum parvifolium........apart from the fact it is a sprawling shrub and will continually spread well outside the container and perhaps cause problems.



Pots don't dessicate..
OK jokes aside
as per the Myoporum, you don't possess secateurs?
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby boylesg » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:02 pm

roughbarked wrote:
boylesg wrote:
It is not a long term or low maintenance proposition Roughbarked.

It is hard enough cultivating anything in pots over a long period of time - they have a tendancy to desicate quickly and kill the plants, particularly during our recent long lasting drought.

Particularly aggressive species like Myoporum parvifolium........apart from the fact it is a sprawling shrub and will continually spread well outside the container and perhaps cause problems.



Pots don't dessicate..
OK jokes aside
as per the Myoporum, you don't possess secateurs?

Oh yes they do Roughbarked. Again I am speaking from a few years of experience in attempting it with a variety of species.

Had to implement an automatic watering system for them to make the effort remotely viable over summer.

The bigger the plants get the more water hungry they become due to their severely restricted root systems. Normally the roots of many native species would penetrate deep down into the subsoil and access a water table.

Growing Myoporum in a pot. I'll pass on that Roughbarked, assuming it would survive for long.

It is bad enough trying to keep it cut back from the edges of my to small raised garden bed.
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Re: Santalum acuminatum

Postby roughbarked » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:12 pm

boylesg wrote:
roughbarked wrote:

Pots don't dessicate..

Oh yes they do Roughbarked.
No they don't. The contents may dry out but the pots don't unless they are a saturated porous pot. Most aren't. ;)
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It is bad enough trying to keep it cut back from the edges of my to small raised garden bed.
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