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Duboisia hopwoodii in Europe

Postby darcy » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:33 am

https://www.kraeuter-und-duftpflanzen.de/ibis3/

Just heard that Ruhlemanns nursery in Germany is stocking plants, don't know which area they are from or how many they have though. Search (suche starten) for Duboisia.
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Postby dogbane26 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:46 pm

It would be helpful if they had an english version since i don't speak german.

Darcy do you have any seeds of Duboisia hopwoodii right now?
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Postby San Rainbow » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:15 pm

I to would love some duboisia hopwoodii seed, wonder if its cites approved?
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Postby dogbane26 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:44 pm

I think CITIES laws are kind of stupid in a way, im not saying protecting endangered species is stupid so dont get me wrong.

Hey it is us that help spread the seeds /plants and if we promised to send some seeds back to AUSTRALIA or to other people worldwide then we might be doing more than the plant could in nature.

I went to Canada onetime and brought a Hoodia gordonii plant with me. I could of lied and said i didnt have live plants. Who knows though it might of died trying to transport it at that time since it was so cold. They said all cacti are cities. It isnt a gosh darn cactus. I mean customs should learn about convergent evolution.

We would be dispersing the seeds better than the plant could. Im not forgetting about invasive species that wouldnt be good.


I mean Phoenix canariensis and Catharanthus roseus might be extinct in their indigenous region but thanks to us gardeners they are widespread throughout the subtropics.

To get back on topic...
I mean say the plant experiences a drought, outcompeted from invasive species or attacked by diseases or pests ..etc.

When we grow them we can sometimes prevent some of those things and help them to make seed or vegetatively reproduce and then give them to someone else.

I disagree that peyote should be illegal to grow. I mean it is already endangered in the wild and then its illegal to grow for us cause of stupid war on drugs crap.

Then some hippies will go dig it up in the wild not being careful the way they do it. There is a method to collect wild plant parts like they say with ginseng if you collect you must plant some of the seeds as well.

When it comes to Peyote some idiots just dig the whole plant up when in Carlos castenadas book states you cut the top off and it will regrow from the roots since most of the plant is underground.

But usually you get some greedy person who wants the whole plant to use.
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Postby San Rainbow » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:07 pm

looks to be all good...

http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_ca ... essionID=0

Condition C12803

Species listing for Duboisia spp.

See Table 1 for a list of species that are permitted entry.

Note: Any species not listed in these tables are prohibited entry into Australia by legislation and require assessment.

Table 1: List of Permitted Species. These species may be imported subject to the conditions C7100, C7179, C7180.

Duboisia hopwoodii

Duboisia leichhardtii

Duboisia myoporoides
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Postby San Rainbow » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:10 pm

now only if I could read German

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Re: cities

Postby roughbarked » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:00 pm

dogbane26 wrote:I think CITIES laws are kind of stupid in a way, im not saying protecting endangered species is stupid so dont get me wrong.

Hey it is us that help spread the seeds /plants and if we promised to send some seeds back to AUSTRALIA or to other people worldwide then we might be doing more than the plant could in nature.

I went to Canada onetime and brought a Hoodia gordonii plant with me. I could of lied and said i didnt have live plants. Who knows though it might of died trying to transport it at that time since it was so cold. They said all cacti are cities. It isnt a gosh darn cactus. I mean customs should learn about convergent evolution.

We would be dispersing the seeds better than the plant could. Im not forgetting about invasive species that wouldnt be good.


I mean Phoenix canariensis and Catharanthus roseus might be extinct in their indigenous region but thanks to us gardeners they are widespread throughout the subtropics.

To get back on topic...
I mean say the plant experiences a drought, outcompeted from invasive species or attacked by diseases or pests ..etc.

When we grow them we can sometimes prevent some of those things and help them to make seed or vegetatively reproduce and then give them to someone else.

I disagree that peyote should be illegal to grow. I mean it is already endangered in the wild and then its illegal to grow for us cause of stupid war on drugs crap.

Then some hippies will go dig it up in the wild not being careful the way they do it. There is a method to collect wild plant parts like they say with ginseng if you collect you must plant some of the seeds as well.

When it comes to Peyote some idiots just dig the whole plant up when in Carlos castenadas book states you cut the top off and it will regrow from the roots since most of the plant is underground.

But usually you get some greedy person who wants the whole plant to use.


I would think that a lot of what you just said is almost illegal if not so.

Look diversity is what it is all about .. not convergent evolution.

Convergent evolution in the way you describe = the evolution of the lemming jumping off the cliff. Just substitute human as the lemming.
_ Any plant will grow from a single bud if you can replicate the required circumstances.
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