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do we have a native pepper?

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Postby eataust » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:42 pm

btw, am sad to report the [/lanceolata/] never recovered. I have NO idea what was going on there. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. The other one's perfectly fine.

Does anyone know how big one's [/stipitatatatata/] (how do you stop spelling it?? :) ) need to be before you can snaffle the odd leaf for cooking? Mine's still definitely a small plant rather than a bush, but it's put out a whole bunch of new growth (pale green with ruby middles - goegeous) and I'm dying to give it a go :)
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Postby Bluetongue » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:07 pm

EA, I snaffle one or two of the older leaves at a time, after growth flushes.
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Postby eataust » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:47 pm

Oooo, goody .. I might grab a couple of the older leaves then and donate them to my mother's planned beef bourginogne (er, can't spell) for this weekend :)
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Postby Rimbaud » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:52 am

EA i have seen "sudden tasmannia death syndrome" (STDS) before. In a period of 2 days or something, these achingly slow-growing beauties just go brown and cark it. Gone, kapput - shazam! I would be interested to know of an explanation. Fungus of some kind?

On the related topic of Tasmannia glaucifolia, here is an update of my collection... first to propagate in the world, possible! Slaps face.

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hopefully available for sale later this year. We'll see.
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Postby darcy » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:16 am

love the thongs and socks :lol:

good work Rimbaud, my 15-20 seedlings are doing ok but not as good as yours.
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Postby Rimbaud » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:59 am

good to hear yours are going well too D, and thank you for the fashion compliment, my usual attire is a non-matching pair of socks but i thought i would tone it down for this ultraconservative forum ;)
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Postby Rimbaud » Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:46 pm

i was actually trying to think of a good "common name" for T.glaucifolia too. Fragrant pepperbush is ok, but if i am going to sell it for the first time, i feel i am entitled to whack a change onto the common name if marketing demands ;) since a common name is only that ;)

it looks like this:



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and the underside of the leaves look like this:
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i wanted something like "aquamarine velvet heaven shrub" you know :)

maybe "Fragrant Pepperbush" IS the best common name. It sure is fragrant. But it is also rather spectacularly beautiful in its setting, and the glaucosity of the leaves are prominent. any ideas??!?
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Postby clare_b74 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:20 pm

They look great Rimbaud :D

While I'm not adverse to fragrant, what about "ambrosial"?! (going on the heaven-shrub tangent...)
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Postby Rimbaud » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:00 pm

:) thanks Clare, ambrosial... The Ambrosial Peppershrub of the misty forests.. sounds good :)
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Postby Bluetongue » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:57 pm

Heck that sounds so good that I'd even venture to Darwin for one! :shock:
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Postby clare_b74 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:01 am

Darwin?!!
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Postby Rimbaud » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:33 am

well i'm hoping people will at least travel to Hornsby for one :)

thr Fragrant Ambrosial Glaucous Forest Safrole Myristicin Croweacin Polygodial Gondwana Peppershrub at Hornsby train station ;)
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Postby Bluetongue » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:24 pm

Hornsby sounds ok i guess... :)
Darwin was kind of a private joke amongst myselves.. it would have to be right up there with Port Hedland as one of my least favourite places to revisit. Ahem. Sorry if I've offended anyone.
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Postby Rimbaud » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:34 pm

if it wasnt for the heavy industry and mining stuff that goes on, Hedland would be one of my fave places BT! there or broome....

i remember staying at a caravan park in port hedland, the temp was 45 degrees in the day, the atmosphere was weird and sweet @ night, as if i was on the wrong continent, or another one... love it :)

but hornsby takes the cake, it's a true treasure island here, a real getaway :) NOT!
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Postby eataust » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:28 pm

I'm just bumping this to cross-reference the lemon myrtle thread that's suddenly talking about Tasmannias, and esp. where Peter Hardwick outs himself as having named stipitata. How COOL is that??

(Yes, I'm easily impressed :) ).

I was thinking ... do you reckon Tasmannias are bushy enough to form a hedge/driveway edging? Can you imagine a row of various types of pepperbush forming a windbreak?

Does anyone know if they actually release peppery scent on their own, or is it only released when crushed or cooked? I wouldn't want to sudddenly make everyone sneeze when the wind went the wrong way ...
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